Ramsay, Robert Condon

Birth Name Ramsay, Robert Condon
Gender male
Age at Death 71 years, 9 months, 25 days

Narrative

Parents:
Father: Albert Algernon Ramsay b: May 1867, Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland. d 1945
Mother: Emma Geneva Condon b: 23 Apr 1870, Oswego, Labette Co., Kansas. d 1951
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USA Social Security Death Index
Given Name: Robert
Surname: Ramsay
Birth Date: 7 January 1897
Social Security Number: 490-10-9051
State: Missouri
Last Place of Residence: Jasper, Missouri
Previous Residence Postal Code: 64801
Event Date: November 1968
Age: 71
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Find A Grave Memorial# 88477139
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His paternal grandfather, R W Ramsay,sr, died 1903, maternal, C M Condon, in 1915, both in Kansas, ~ ~ his father, uncle and grandfather had imigrated from Scotland to America in the 1880s developing a chain of, up-scale, Dry Goods stores in the midwest, located at one time or another, at Atchison (1907), Coffeyville (<1898) , Iola (1899), Pittsburg (1890) in Kansas,~ Guthrie 1892), McAlester (1928), Miami, Okumalgee (1919) in Oklahoma,~ Beatrice (1936), in Nebraska ~ Carthage (1895) & Joplin (1910) in Missouri to name known locations. In part found in Joplin Globe, p 4, c 2&3, 26 September 1946, for a good history of store growth and its 25 April 1952, 62nd Anniversary article, family owned and operated some stores over eighty years until sons, Bob and Jimmie, sold Carthage & Joplin stores in 1972 to Vandever Incorporated of Oklahoma, with their closing 30 August 1976 or '79. (son Bob opened a store in Las Vegas, Nevada).

Birth: an only child in Carthage, Jasper county, Missouri, named for each of his grandfathers.
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Census: 1900, age 3 Carthage, Jasper county, Missouri with parents at 1340 Grand avenue.
Census: 1910, age 13 Carthage, Jasper county, Missouri with parents at 1332, now 1422 Grand avenue. (listed as Albert)
Census: 1920, age 22, Carthage, Jasper county, Missouri with parents at 1332, now 1422 Grand avenue, a merchant.
Census: 1930, age 33, Joplin, Jasper county, Missouri with 2nd wife & her 3 y/o son, Harry Whitaker.
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U S City Directories information:
1925, department manager, Ramsay Dry Goods Company, C S Condon [Clifford Sturat, mother's youngest brother] manager, 1st wife Mary R, residence #43 Olive apartments, Joplin, Jasper county, Missouri.
1929, 1st wife Mary R at #25 Gentry Apartments, Joplin, Jasper county, Missouri.
1930, 2nd wife Harriette at 15th & Mississippi, Joplin, Jasper county, Missouri.
1931, 2nd wife Harriette at Castle rock, Jasper count, Missouri.
1938, manager Ramsay's at 527-531 Main street, Joplin,2nd wife Harriette, residing at 1220 Range Line, Joplin, Jasper county, Missouri.
1942, 2nd wife Harriette at 2609 east 32nd street.
1946, 3rd wife Stella, residing at Redings Mill, Newton county, Missouri.

See Joplin Globe, p 4, c 2&3, 26 September 1946 for a good history of the Ramsay store's growth.
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Cousins, Robert C, s/o Albert A and Ronald H, s/o Robert W Ramsay,jr split ownership, Ronald H ending with Iola & Atchison, Kansas stores, Robert C the others. Not much was uncovered in the internet research concerning this Ramsay or the Condon families, so two ladies went to Oswego, Kansas in 2012 and did some deep research.

1951 & 1953, president Ramsay Dry Goods Company, 3rd wife Stella residence Redings Mill, Newton county, Missouri.
1959 & 1960, president Ramsay Dry Goods Company, 3rd wife Stella, residence Tabor Woods, Jasper county, Missouri.
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Marriage 1: Mary Rebecca Crane
(currently unknown is what happened to her after 1929)

Child: Robert Crane Ramsey b: 1927 in Missouri, d: May 1999.
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Marriage 2: Mrs Harriette Mott (Writer) Whitaker b: 12 Jan 1903 Jasper county, Missouri.
Married: about 1930 location currently unknown, likely Jasper county, Missouri, ~ (?) divorced before 1946 ~ (she brought, at least, one child, Harry, into the marriage)

Child: James A Ramsay b: 31 OCT 1932 Joplin, Jasper county, Missouri. (at Wentworth Military Academy, 1949/50)
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Marriage 3: Stella C (currently unknown) b: 18 SEP 1905/6
Married: between 1942 & 1946, d: MAR 1989.

No known issue
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TRIPS TO EUROPE

New York, New York Passenger and Crew Lists
Name: Robert Ramsay
First Class Passenger
Departure from: Southampton, England
Departure: 27 Apr 1951
Event Type: Immigration
Event Date: 3 May 1951
Event Place: New York City, New York
Gender: Male
Age: 54
Birthplace: Missouri
Ship Name: Ile De France
Birth Year (Estimated): 1897
Affiliate Publication Title: Passenger and Crew Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York, NY, 1897-1957 , Affiliate Publication Number: T715 , Affiliate Film Number: 7976 , GS Film number: 002297495 , Digital Folder Number: 007256101 , Image Number: 00748
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New York, New York Passenger and Crew Lists
Name: Robert Ramsay
First Class Passenger
Departure from: Le Havre, France
Departure: 26 Sep 1955
Event Type: Immigration
Event Date: 3 Oct 1955
Event Place: New York City, New York
Gender: Male
Age: 58
Birthplace: Missouri
Ship Name: Flandre
Birth Year (Estimated): 1897
Affiliate Publication Title: Passenger and Crew Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York, NY, 1897-1957 , Affiliate Publication Number: T715 , Affiliate Film Number: 8642 , GS Film number: 002322088 , Digital Folder Number: 007266517 , Image Number: 00845
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OTHER TRIP
New York, New York Passenger and Crew Lists
Name: Robert Ramsay
First Class Passenger
Departure: 27 May 1955
Event Type: Immigration
Event Date: 3 Jun 1955
Event Place: New York City, New York
Birthplace: Mo
Ship Name: Nassau
Affiliate Publication Title: Passenger and Crew Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York, NY, 1897-1957 , Affiliate Publication Number: T715 , Affiliate Film Number: 8592 , GS Film number: 002322038 , Digital Folder Number: 007266422 , Image Number: 00975

Events

Event Date Place Description Sources
Birth 7 January 1897 Carthage, Jasper Co., Missouri, USA    
Death November 1968 Joplin, Jasper Co., Missouri, USA    
Census 1900 Carthage, Jasper Co., Missouri, USA    
Census 1930/1940 Joplin, Jasper Co., Missouri, USA    

Families

Family of Ramsay, Robert Condon and Crane, Mary Rebecca

Married Wife Crane, Mary Rebecca ( * + ... )
   
Event Date Place Description Sources
Marriage 18 October 1922 Jacksonr Co., Missouri, USA    
  Children
Name Birth Date Death Date
Ramsay, Robert Crane192711 May 1999
  Attributes
Type Value Notes Sources
_UID 1FC64D1B86E41B45B25F6AD97A2C9CB865EC
 

Family of Ramsay, Robert Condon and Writer, Harriette Mott

Unknown Partner Writer, Harriette Mott ( * 12 January 1903 + November 1985 )
   
Event Date Place Description Sources
Divorce     Y  
  Children
Name Birth Date Death Date
Ramsay, James A11 October 193210 April 2008
  Attributes
Type Value Notes Sources
_UID 72703987D2A18847BE803EABB132CE30EC9C
 

Family of Ramsay, Robert Condon and ?, Stella C

Married Wife ?, Stella C ( * 5 March 1905 + 18 September 1989 )
   
Event Date Place Description Sources
Marriage about 1945 Joplin, Jasper Co., Missouri, USA    
  Attributes
Type Value Notes Sources
_UID FC1D193BCE3A354EB1C39F5EB98E29FFD812
 

Attributes

Type Value Notes Sources
_UID C645E2BDF28A8F459F7B36BAA659E415FC64